CBC Radio – Hypnotist – March 8, 1999

3 Jun

CBC searched their Radio & Television archives for any reference to Brianne Wolgram and found only one reference to a radio segment aired on March 8, 1999, in Kelowna.

I’ve done some minor editing and formatting.

BROADCAST: DAYBREAK KELOWNA
Bcast Date: MAR08-99 Start:06:00:00 End:09:00:00
Program City: KELOWNA Part: –
Department: CURRENT AFFAIRS Net/Regl/Local:L
Radio/Stereo: R Delayed Release? N Recorded? N
Original/Repeat: O First Bcast: MAR08-99 Reworked? N
Canadian Content Cat 2: / = % Cat3: / =
Series Title: DAYBREAK
Episode Title:
PERSON: ALISON PAINE
Capacity: HOST
Canadian? Y Female? Y
PERSON: JOHN BOIVIN
Capacity: PRODUCER
MAR03/99 HYPNOTIST CL LIVE PHONER 640
TALKING TO LEE PULOS

BB: POLICE ARE USING HYPNOTISTS TO HELP SOLVE THE MYSTERY OF A MISSING REVELSTOKE GIRL…MORE LATER THIS HOUR.

INTRO:

POLICE ARE HOPING A HYPNOTIST CAN HELP SOLVE THE MYSTERY OF A MISSING REVELSTOKE WOMAN. BRIANNE WOLGRAM DISAPPEARED EARLY LAST SEPTEMBER. HER CAR WAS LATER FOUND NEAR A LOGGING ROAD BUT HER WHEREABOUTS IS STILL A PUZZLE. NOW INVESTIGATORS HAVE SOUGHT THE HELP OF DR LEE PULOS. HE’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE CANADIAN SOCIETY OF CLINICAL HYPNOTISTS IN B.C. AND HE JOINS ME ON THE LINE FROM VANCOUVER.

QUESTIONS:

1. HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE CASE…?

2. AS A RESULT OF THE HYPNOTISM, WHAT WERE THE WITNESSES ABLE TO REVEAL..?

3. HOW DOES HYPNOTISM WORK..? – what do you have to do to hypnotise patients…

4. WHY ARE PEOPLE ABLE TO REVEAL DETAILS THEY ARE OTHERWISE UNABLE TO DO SO IN A CONSCIOUS STATE..?

5. HOW ACCURATE ARE THESE DESCRIPTIONS..?

6. HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU BEEN ASKED TO HELP OUT IN POLICE INVESTIGATIONS..? – AND TO WHAT EXTEND DID IT HELP POLICE SOLVE THE CASES..?

EXTRO:

LEE PULOS IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CANADIAN SOCIETY OF CLINICAL HYPNOTISTS OF B.C.
BACKGROUND ON LEE PULOS

– A good interview, chatty and informative. Hypnotism is commonly used by police investigators to help witnesses refresh their memories. He personally has been involved in more than 250 cases. But he says because of budget cutbacks, he hasn’t been called as frequently as he used to be. He has been involved in high profile cases such as the Abbotsford killer, the air India bombing.

His latest case involved Brianne Wolgram. Wolgram is the nineteen year old Revelstoke girl that went missing early last September. Her car was found by the side of a logging road. Two people who were the last to see her were hypnotised by Lee to sharpen their memories of what they saw.

Lee hypnotised a female friend of Brianne’s. Under hypnotism, she told Lee of a guy in a red truck that was hanging around Brianne and her girlfriends. He apparently was leering at the girls. This witness was able to help police come up with a composite drawing of the guy in the red truck.

The other person Lee hypnotised was a male person. He was the last person who saw Brianne alive. He says he saw Brianne the day after the truck incident. Lee says he wasn’t a good witness.

Pulos describes hypnotism as being in a natural state of consciousness. He says patients are fully aware of their surroundings when they are being hypnotised. But under hypnotism, they become more focused and are able to filter out what is irrelevant. It helps them to refresh their memories and draw out details. He adds that under hypnotism their brain shifts from right to left.

How accurate is memory under hypnotism..? Says it’s a controversial issue, memory is very fluid. It’s a very grey area but he says there have been many cases where witnesses have been able to help police solve cases. If it weren’t useful, it wouldn’t continue as a tool police use.

PERSON: pulos lee
Capacity: hypnotist
Canadian? Y
SUBJECT: HYPNOTISM, MISSING PERSON


This is actually information I’ve never seen or heard before. Is anyone able to elaborate on this? If so, please contact us.

Thank you to Colin from CBC and Florence from CTV.

CTV does not have anything in reference to Brianne.

Update – June 17, 2010:

Spoke with Dr. Lee Pulos a few days ago. He does not remember Brianne’s case; records are destroyed after 7 years.

I asked him for clarification on his statement that the male was “not a good witness”. He responded by saying the witness was probably not a good subject for hypnotism.

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